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|caption="The freer the market, the more socialist it is"
|caption="The freer the market, the more socialist it is"
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LibMarkSoc<br>
LibMarkSoc<br>
Mutualism Lite<br>
Mutualism Lite<br>
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[[File:ZoomerLibLeft.png]] Zoomer LibLeft (Some)<br>
[[File:ZoomerLibLeft.png]] Zoomer LibLeft (Some)<br>
[[File:DemMut.png]] Democratic Mutualism (Some)<br>
[[File:DemMut.png]] Democratic Mutualism (Some)<br>
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[[File:Vaushism.png]] {{PCBA|Vaushism}} (Debatably)<br>
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<s>Liberty Mutual Insurance</s>
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[[File:Vaushism.png]] '''Vaushism:'''<br>
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Vaush Socialism<br>
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[[File:Vaush.png]] Ian Kochinski Thought<br>
<s>Mr. Hands Socialism</s><br>
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[[File:Libsoc.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism]]<br>
[[File:Libsoc.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism]]<br>
[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism]]<br>
[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism]]<br>
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[[File:Minsocf.png]] [[Minarcho-Socialism]]<br>
[[File:Minsocf.png]] [[Minarcho-Socialism]]<br>
[[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]]
[[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]]
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[https://youtu.be/c17wybvjHpQ Vaush Rad]<br>
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[[File:PanAmer.png]] '''Americas''' {{Collapse|
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*[[File:Anpag.png]] [[Anarcho-Individualism|Robert Anton Wilson]] (1932-2007) [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA
*[[File:Anpag.png]] [[Anarcho-Individualism|Robert Anton Wilson]] (1932-2007) [[File:Cball-US.png]] {{PBW|USAball|USA}}
*[[File:GreensUS.png]] [[Eco-Socialism|Howie Hawkins]] (1952-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA
*[[File:GreensUS.png]] [[Eco-Socialism|Howie Hawkins]] (1952-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] {{PBW|USAball|USA}}
*[[File:Vaush.png]] [[Machiavellianism|Ian ‘Vaush’ Kochinski]] (1994-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA
*[[File:Vaush.png]] [[Machiavellianism|Ian "Vaush" Kochinski]] (1994-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] {{PBW|USAball|USA}}
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[[File:PanAsian.png]] '''Asia''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Prout.png]] [[Proutism|Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar]] (1921-1990) [[File:Cball-India.png]] India
*[[File:Prout.png]] [[Proutism|Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar]] (1921-1990) [[File:Cball-India.png]] {{PBW|Indiaball|India}}
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[[File:Cball-Commonwealth.png]] '''Commonwealth Realm''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Guildsoc.png]] [[Guild Socialism|G. D. H. Cole]] (1889-1959) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] UK
*[[File:Guildsoc.png]] [[Guild Socialism|G. D. H. Cole]] (1889-1959) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] {{PBW|UKball|UK}}
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[[File:Cball-EU.png]] '''Europe''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Minmut.png]] [[Minarcho-Socialism|Francesc Pi i Margall]] (1824-1901) [[File:Cball-Spain.png]] Spain
*[[File:Minmut.png]] [[Minarcho-Socialism|Francesc Pi i Margall]] (1824-1901) [[File:Cball-Spain.png]] {{PBW|Spainball|Spain}}
*[[File:Demsocstar.png]] [[Democratic Socialism|Yanis Varoufakis]] (1961-) [[File:Cball-Greece.png]] Greece
*[[File:Demsocstar.png]] [[Democratic Socialism|Yanis Varoufakis]] (1961-) [[File:Cball-Greece.png]] {{PBW|Greeceball|Greece}}
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[[File:Vaushism.png]] '''Vaushism''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:AnSynd.png]] [[Anarcho-Syndicalism]] (Formerly)
*[[File:AntiAnarchy.png]] Anti-Anarchism (Debatably)<ref>Vaush's disagreements with anarchists stems mostly from a dislike of what he sees as purity checking, Vaush mostly has argued for anarchist principles and still proclaims to aim for an anarchist society but doesn't call himself an anarchist anymore and has received criticism from anarchists, that said Vaush has only disagreed with certain anarchist positions and not with anarchism itself nor has he directly proclaimed to dislike anarchism as his criticisms are aimed mostly towards twitter anarchists and anti-civ anarchism and not anarchism in general</ref>
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*[[File:Antifa.png]] [[Anti-Fascism]]
*[[File:Anti-ML.png]] Anti-Marxism-Leninism
*[[File:AntiNation.png]] Anti-Nationalism
*[[File:Antthe.png]] Anti-Theism
*[[File:Consequentialism.png]] {{PHB|Consequentialism}}
*[[File:DefDem.png]] [[Democracy|Defensive Democracy]]
*[[File:Demsocstar.png]] [[Democratic Socialism]]
*[[File:Demsocstar.png]] [[Democratic Socialism]]
*<s>[[File:Dengf.png]] [[Dengism]]</s><ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2q-JJ8p3Ls Vaush Independently Arrives at Socialism with Chinese Characteristics]</ref>
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*[[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]]
*[[File:Dem.png]] [[Democracy]]
*[[File:Destiny.png]] [[Social Liberalism|Destinyism]] (Formerly)
*[[File:Liberalsoc.png]] [[Liberal Socialism]]
*[[File:Ecosoc.png]] [[Eco-Socialism]]
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*[[File:Lpop.png]] [[Left-Wing Populism]]
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*[[File:Liberalsoc.png]] [[Liberal Socialism]]<ref>"When Marx and following theorists wrote on capitalism they weren't writing 'capitalism and liberalism are worst things to ever happen to humanity, they are the greatest oppression of workers'. No. Marxism is supposed to be an extension of liberalism not a rejection of it, a true promotion of unity, fraternity, and freedom, and liberty, and shit. That's what Marxism and that's what leftism is about, it's about bringing the messaging of the liberal movement forward, to make it better, to make it get stronger, to make it true to its principles."</ref>
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*[[File:Mach.png]] [[Machiavellianism]]<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwpvqW0mr8E "You call it selling out your principles, I call it fucking winning - and that's my principle."]</ref><ref>[https://streamable.com/x9y05p]</ref>
[[File:Minmut.png]] '''Margallism''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Liberalsoc.png]] [[Liberal Socialism]]
*[[File:Marxfemnewicon.png]] [[Marxist Feminism]]
*<s>[[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]]</s><ref>[https://x.com/VaushV/status/1501324260660301831 Women be quieter and start apologizing challenge]</ref><ref>[https://archive.ph/W9GLz]</ref>
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*[[File:Minsocf.png]] [[Minarcho-Socialism]]
*[[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]]
*[[File:Menslib.png]] [[Men's Liberation]]
*[[File:Radlib.png]] [[Radicalism]]
*[[File:Neomarx.png]] [[Neo-Marxism]]
*[[File:Republicanismpix.png]] [[Republicanism]]
*[[File:Post-Genderism.png]] [[Postgenderism]]
*[[File:Postmodernicon.png]] {{PCBA|Post-Modernism}}
*<s>[[File:Pseudoint.png]] [[Kakistocracy|Pseudointellectualism]]</s>
*[[File:Ultraprogressivism.png]] [[Revolutionary Progressivism]]
*[[File:SocHawk.png]] [[Neoconservatism|Socialist Hawkism]]<ref>[https://x.com/VaushV/status/1555996626157576192 I mean, between the US, Russia and China, we have one country threatening war, one country actually committed to an imperialist war of conquest, and one country - the United States - standing with both of their victims. You have to be pretty bad to make the US look good]</ref>
*[[File:Soctrans.png]] [[Socialist Transhumanism]]<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXDgSXKL8m0&t=425 ELON MUSK BRAIN IMPLANT GETS FDA APPROVAL]</ref>
*[[File:Utility.png]] {{PHB|Utilitarianism}}
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'''Libertarian Market Socialism''', sometimes referred to as '''LibMarkSoc''', is an economically left-wing, libertarian, and generally culturally progressive (like most other left-libertarian ideologies) ideology who can be described as a more moderate version of [[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]]. LibMarkSoc believes in the libertarian principle of limited government combined with the economic view that while the means of production should belong to the workers who use them, goods and services should be provided through a market economy contributed to by worker-owned businesses and co-ops. They support local direct democracy, with a limited, higher level federal government.
'''Libertarian Market Socialism''', sometimes referred to as '''LibMarkSoc''', is an economically left-wing, libertarian, and generally culturally progressive (like most other left-libertarian ideologies) ideology who can be described as a more moderate version of [[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]]. LibMarkSoc believes in the libertarian principle of limited government combined with the economic view that while the means of production should belong to the workers who use them, goods and services should be provided through a market economy contributed to by worker-owned businesses and co-ops. They support local direct democracy, with a limited, higher level federal government.


== History ==
==History==


=== Spain ===
===Spain===


==How to Draw==
==How to Draw==
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*[[File:Guildsoc.png]] [[Guild Socialism]] - G. D. H. Cole had some great ideas.
*[[File:Guildsoc.png]] [[Guild Socialism]] - G. D. H. Cole had some great ideas.
*[[File:Djilas.png]] [[Liberal Socialism|Đilasism]] - Basically a democratic version of [[File:Tito.png]] [[Titoism|him]]. I love your ideas even though you are a bit too moderate.
*[[File:Djilas.png]] [[Liberal Socialism|Đilasism]] - Basically a democratic version of [[File:Tito.png]] [[Titoism|him]]. I love your ideas even though you are a bit too moderate.
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*<s>[[File:Mach.png]] [[Machiavellianism]] - ''"You call it selling out your principles, I call it fucking winning - and that's my principle."''</s>


===Frenemies===
===Frenemies===
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Minmutfullsized.png|Minarcho-Mutualism
Minmutfullsized.png|Minarcho-Mutualism
Austbertms_flag.svg|Flag of [[File:Auslibm.png]] Austrolibertarian Market Socialism
Austrolib marketsoc.png|[[File:Auslibm.png]] Austrolibertarian Market Socialism
Austbertms_flag.svg|Flag of Austrolibertarian Market Socialism
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Latest revision as of 13:25, 11 June 2024

"In any socialised enterprise, no matter what its form, socialisation requires that proper provision be made for the democratic participation of the workers in determining the conditions and allocation of work, both at the work place level and at the higher levels of management and control."

Libertarian Market Socialism, sometimes referred to as LibMarkSoc, is an economically left-wing, libertarian, and generally culturally progressive (like most other left-libertarian ideologies) ideology who can be described as a more moderate version of Mutualism. LibMarkSoc believes in the libertarian principle of limited government combined with the economic view that while the means of production should belong to the workers who use them, goods and services should be provided through a market economy contributed to by worker-owned businesses and co-ops. They support local direct democracy, with a limited, higher level federal government.

History

Spain

How to Draw

Flag of Libertarian Market Socialism

Libertarian Market Socialism is almost identical in design to Libertarian Socialism, apart from the orange color, which is meant to mirror the color scheme of Mutualism.

  1. Draw a ball
  2. Draw an alternating pattern of orange and a near-black stretching from the edge and meeting at the center, with 10 segments.
  3. Draw a star with the reverse colors in the center of the ball.
  4. Fill in the star and clean up the edges.
  5. Add the eyes and you're done!
Color Name HEX RGB
Orange #FFA900 255, 169, 0
Black #141414 20, 20, 20


Relationships

Friends

Frenemies

  • Democratic Confederalism - Your implementation in Rojava has a lot of worker owned co-ops, but what's this about bartering only?
  • Anarcho-Communism - I like you for being socialist and anti-state, but we get into heated debates about economics far too often.
  • Distributism - Both of us are fans of co-ops, worker-owned business, decentralization and free markets, but I feel like our ideologies come from two very different places.
  • Libertarianism - I admire your values of a free market and a limited state, but why can't you just accept the socialist system?
  • Social Libertarianism - I guess you're a little better then the above, but you don't really go far enough.
  • Classical Liberalism - John Stuart Mill is cool and all, but I wish you would realize the equality you want can't come about from within capitalism.
  • Georgism - I like how you try and have free markets and economic equality, but I don't know; I just feel like my methods are better.
  • Social Democracy - You're probably the best of the liberals, and I like how the countries you run have some of the freest markets, but you're still capitalistic and pretty statist at the end of the day.
  • Titoism - You did a good job in showing how a market socialist economy can indeed work, but I really wish you didn't decide to still have the one-party state and despotism.

Enemies

Gallery

Portraits

  • Portrait by u/Staswalle

    Portrait by u/Staswalle

Alternative designs

  • Minarcho-Mutualism

    Minarcho-Mutualism

  • Austrolibertarian Market Socialism

    Austrolibertarian Market Socialism

  • Flag of Austrolibertarian Market Socialism

    Flag of Austrolibertarian Market Socialism

Further Information

Wikipedia

Francesc Pi i Margall

YouTube

Videos

Navigation

  1. ↑ Vaush's disagreements with anarchists stems mostly from a dislike of what he sees as purity checking, Vaush mostly has argued for anarchist principles and still proclaims to aim for an anarchist society but doesn't call himself an anarchist anymore and has received criticism from anarchists, that said Vaush has only disagreed with certain anarchist positions and not with anarchism itself nor has he directly proclaimed to dislike anarchism as his criticisms are aimed mostly towards twitter anarchists and anti-civ anarchism and not anarchism in general
  2. ↑ Vaush Independently Arrives at Socialism with Chinese Characteristics
  3. ↑ "When Marx and following theorists wrote on capitalism they weren't writing 'capitalism and liberalism are worst things to ever happen to humanity, they are the greatest oppression of workers'. No. Marxism is supposed to be an extension of liberalism not a rejection of it, a true promotion of unity, fraternity, and freedom, and liberty, and shit. That's what Marxism and that's what leftism is about, it's about bringing the messaging of the liberal movement forward, to make it better, to make it get stronger, to make it true to its principles."
  4. ↑ "You call it selling out your principles, I call it fucking winning - and that's my principle."
  5. ↑ [1]
  6. ↑ Women be quieter and start apologizing challenge
  7. ↑ [2]
  8. ↑ I mean, between the US, Russia and China, we have one country threatening war, one country actually committed to an imperialist war of conquest, and one country - the United States - standing with both of their victims. You have to be pretty bad to make the US look good
  9. ↑ ELON MUSK BRAIN IMPLANT GETS FDA APPROVAL
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