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'''Ricardian Socialism''' is an ideology that argues the Ricardian notion that labor is the source of all value, and as such labor deserves all that it produces. Rent, profit, and interest in the view of this ideology are corruptive forces of the free market, not natural outgrowths of this system. The Ricardian Socialists argue that the best way for a market society to function is one where associations of workers control the means of production, which is believed to eliminate the inherent inefficiency of a financial drain at the head of a company.
'''Ricardian Socialism''' is an ideology that argues the Ricardian notion that labor is the source of all value, and as such labor deserves all that it produces. Rent, profit, and interest in the view of this ideology are corruptive forces of the free market, not natural outgrowths of this system. The Ricardian Socialists argue that the best way for a market society to function is one where associations of workers control the means of production, which is believed to eliminate the inherent inefficiency of a financial drain at the head of a company.

==History==
==History==
===[[File:Ricardocube.png]] Ricardianism===
===David Ricardo===

===Charles Hall===
===William Thompson===
===Charles Hall Thought===

===[[File:WilliamThompson.png]] Thompsonism===
'''William Thompson''' was an Irish philosopher and writer known as the "first Irish socialist", whose ideals influenced Karl Marx and numerous trade union movements. He was also a landowner, on which he tried to provide a good quality of life for his tenants, providing education for children, agricultural innovations, among others. After his death, his lands were donated to unions.
'''William Thompson''' was an Irish philosopher and writer known as the "first Irish socialist", whose ideals influenced Karl Marx and numerous trade union movements. He was also a landowner, on which he tried to provide a good quality of life for his tenants, providing education for children, agricultural innovations, among others. After his death, his lands were donated to unions.


He supported the French Revolution and became interested in the Enlightenment, earning him the nickname "Red Republican". He was also influenced by the utilitarianism of James Mill and, in a negative way, by Malthus and Godwin, as well as becoming familiar with Utopian Socialists. He believes in Adam Smith's theory of value, but he strongly believes in Surplus Value, a term which he created and became popular with Marx, in which he states that in capitalism, the product is worth more than the work given to it, that is, a more value.<ref>To make it easier, a hypothetical example: In a sock factory, each worker earns 10 coins for every sock made, while socks are sold for 20 coins. It would then generate the exploitation of the salaried worker.[[W:Surplus value|More detailed wikipedia page on the subject]], in addition to recommending Marx's books</ref> He claims that capitalism generates exploitation and opposes the idea of Mill and Malthus that the increase in wages would increase misery, believing it to be of a capitalist selfish nature, believing in any kind of wealth distribution schemes. He was also in favor of women's voting rights, along with Mill. Other ideals would be the concern with the increase of the population would generate in the increase of the poverty, vegetarianism, opposition to unequal wages, unlimited distribution and equal distribution.
He supported the French Revolution and became interested in the Enlightenment, earning him the nickname "Red Republican". He was also influenced by the utilitarianism of [[File:Utility.png]] [[Radicalism|James Mill]] and, in a negative way, by Malthus and Godwin, as well as becoming familiar with Utopian Socialists. He believes in Adam Smith's theory of value, but he strongly believes in Surplus Value, a term which he created and became popular with Marx, in which he states that in capitalism, the product is worth more than the work given to it, that is, a more value.<ref>To make it easier, a hypothetical example: In a sock factory, each worker earns 10 coins for every sock made, while socks are sold for 20 coins. It would then generate the exploitation of the salaried worker.[[W:Surplus value|More detailed Wikipedia page on the subject]], in addition to recommending Marx's books</ref> He claims that capitalism generates exploitation and opposes the idea of Mill and Malthus that the increase in wages would increase misery, believing it to be of a capitalist selfish nature, believing in any kind of wealth distribution schemes. He was also in favor of women's voting rights, along with Mill. Other ideals would be the concern with the increase of the population would generate in the increase of the poverty, vegetarianism, opposition to unequal wages, unlimited distribution and equal distribution.


===Thomas Hodgskin===
===Thomas Hodgskin===

==How to Draw==
==How to Draw==
{{Flag|Ricardosoc_flag.svg}}
{{Flag|Ricardosoc_flag.svg}}

The flag of Ricardian socialism is basically the same as the flag of [[File:Clib.png]] [[Classical Liberalism|classical liberalism]], except for a red band in the center of the flag, symbolizing socialist economics.

# Draw a ball with Eyes.
# Draw a tricolour of Dark Blue, Red and White.
# (Optional) Give a fedora.

{{Flag-auto|c1=White
|h1=#FFFFFF
|c2=Red
|h2=#C9352B
|c3=Dark Blue
|h3=#39386E}}


==Relationships==
==Relationships==
===Friends===
===Friends===
*[[File:Ricardocube.png]] [[Classical Liberalism|Ricardian Liberalism]] - My dad, who taught me much of what I know. Labor theory of value gang!
*[[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]] - Proudhon, we have some disagreements, your usufruct-based infrastructure is a little shortsighted, but you know I love you!
*[[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]] - Proudhon, we have some disagreements, your usufruct-based infrastructure is a little shortsighted, but you know I love you!
*[[File: Georgist.png]] [[Georgism]] - See, this is my kind of capitalism. Even if you're still a little top-heavy with the wealth, you do eliminate many of the perversions of the free market.
*[[File:Georgist.png]] [[Georgism]] - See, this is my kind of capitalism. Even if you're still a little top-heavy with the wealth, you do eliminate many of the perversions of the free market.


===Frenemies===
===Frenemies===
*[[File:clib.png]] [[Classical Liberalism]] - The intellectual environment I grew out of, but don't you recognize the exploitative and inefficient nature of capitalism?
*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] - Son, I still don't quite see why you lost the market, there are positive aspects to a competitive economy. That said, you have plenty of good ideas yourself, and more than a few of those came from me.
*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] - Son, I still don't quite see why you lost the market, there are positive aspects to a competitive economy. That said, you have plenty of good ideas yourself, and more than a few of those came from me.
*[[file:clib.png]] [[Classical Liberalism]] - The intellectual environment I grew out of, but don't you recognize the exploitative and inefficient nature of capitalism?


===Enemies===
===Enemies===
*[[File:Plutocrat.png]] [[Plutocracy]] - You're an economic drain, siphoning wealth away from the workers and contributing nothing valuable to the systems you control.
*[[File:Plutocrat.png]] [[Plutocracy]] - You're an economic drain, siphoning wealth away from the workers and contributing nothing valuable to the systems you control.
*[[File:Merc.png]] [[Mercantilism]] - Oh good lord, if it wasn't enough to exploit workers at home, you've decided to throw a little imperialism in to exploit the rest of the world, and eliminate the one good part of capitalism, free trade. I really hope capitalists in the future don't end up learning from you and exploiting foreign labor and consumption, impoverishing and enslaving the future equivalent of a colonial citizen.
*[[File:Merc.png]] [[Mercantilism]] - Oh good lord, if it wasn't enough to exploit workers at home, you've decided to throw a little imperialism in to exploit the rest of the world, and eliminate the one good part of capitalism, free trade. I really hope capitalists in the future don't end up learning from you and exploiting foreign labor and consumption, impoverishing and enslaving the future equivalent of a colonial citizen .


==Further information==
==Further information==
===Literature===
*[[w:Ricardian_socialism|Ricardian Socialism]]
*[https://www.amazon.com/Effects-Civilization-People-European-States-ebook/dp/B07DD9XK55/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=The+Effects+of+Civilization+On+the+People+in+European+States&qid=1623349070&sr=8-1 The Effects of Civilization On the People in European States] by ''Charles Hall'' (1805)
*[https://www.amazon.com/Effects-Civilization-People-European-States-ebook/dp/B07DD9XK55/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=The+Effects+of+Civilization+On+the+People+in+European+States&qid=1623349070&sr=8-1 The Effects of Civilization On the People in European States] by [[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism|Charles Hall]] (1805)
*[https://www.gutenberg.org/files/33310/33310-h/33310-h.htm On The Principles of Political Economy and Taxation] by David Ricardo (1817)
*[https://www.gutenberg.org/files/33310/33310-h/33310-h.htm On The Principles of Political Economy and Taxation] by [[File:Ricardocube.png]] [[Classical Liberalism|David Ricardo]] (1817)
*[https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/economics/mill-james/index.htm Elements of Political Economy] by ''James Mill'' (1824)
*[https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/economics/mill-james/index.htm Elements of Political Economy] by [[File:Utility.png]] [[Radicalism|James Mill]] (1824)
*[https://archive.org/details/inquiryintoprinc00thomuoft An Inquiry into the Principles of the Distribution of Wealth] by ''William Thompson'' (1824)
*[https://archive.org/details/inquiryintoprinc00thomuoft An Inquiry into the Principles of the Distribution of Wealth] by [[File:WilliamThompson.png]] [[Marxist Feminism|William Thompson]] (1824)
*[https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/economics/hodgskin/labour-defended.htm The Definitive Labour Defended against the Claims of Capital] by ''Thomas Hodgskin'' (1825)
*[https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/economics/hodgskin/labour-defended.htm The Definitive Labour Defended against the Claims of Capital] by [[File:Anmark2.png]] [[Left-Wing Market Anarchism|Thomas Hodgskin]] (1825)
*[https://oll-resources.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/oll3/store/titles/320/0551_Bk.pdf Popular Political Economy] by ''Thomas Hodgskin'' (1827)
*[https://oll-resources.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/oll3/store/titles/320/0551_Bk.pdf Popular Political Economy] by [[File:Anmark2.png]] [[Left-Wing Market Anarchism|Thomas Hodgskin]] (1827)
*[https://oll-resources.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/oll3/store/titles/323/0419_Bk.pdf The Natural and Artificial Right of Property Contrasted] by ''Thomas Hodgskin'' (1832)
*[https://oll-resources.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/oll3/store/titles/323/0419_Bk.pdf The Natural and Artificial Right of Property Contrasted] by [[File:Anmark2.png]] [[Left-Wing Market Anarchism|Thomas Hodgskin]] (1832)
*[https://archive.org/details/labourswrongsan01braygoog Labour's Wrongs and Labour's Remedy] by ''John Francis Bray'' (1839)
*[https://archive.org/details/labourswrongsan01braygoog Labour's Wrongs and Labour's Remedy] by John Francis Bray (1839)

===Wikipedia===
*[[File:Ricardosoc.png]] [[w:Ricardian_socialism|Ricardian Socialism]]


==Gallery==
==Gallery==
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==Notes==
{{Reflist|group=Note}}


==Navigation==
==Navigation==

Revision as of 21:52, 15 May 2024

"The farmer and manufacturer can no more live without profit than the labourer without wages."

Ricardian Socialism is an ideology that argues the Ricardian notion that labor is the source of all value, and as such labor deserves all that it produces. Rent, profit, and interest in the view of this ideology are corruptive forces of the free market, not natural outgrowths of this system. The Ricardian Socialists argue that the best way for a market society to function is one where associations of workers control the means of production, which is believed to eliminate the inherent inefficiency of a financial drain at the head of a company.

History

Ricardianism

Charles Hall Thought

Thompsonism

William Thompson was an Irish philosopher and writer known as the "first Irish socialist", whose ideals influenced Karl Marx and numerous trade union movements. He was also a landowner, on which he tried to provide a good quality of life for his tenants, providing education for children, agricultural innovations, among others. After his death, his lands were donated to unions.

He supported the French Revolution and became interested in the Enlightenment, earning him the nickname "Red Republican". He was also influenced by the utilitarianism of James Mill and, in a negative way, by Malthus and Godwin, as well as becoming familiar with Utopian Socialists. He believes in Adam Smith's theory of value, but he strongly believes in Surplus Value, a term which he created and became popular with Marx, in which he states that in capitalism, the product is worth more than the work given to it, that is, a more value.[1] He claims that capitalism generates exploitation and opposes the idea of Mill and Malthus that the increase in wages would increase misery, believing it to be of a capitalist selfish nature, believing in any kind of wealth distribution schemes. He was also in favor of women's voting rights, along with Mill. Other ideals would be the concern with the increase of the population would generate in the increase of the poverty, vegetarianism, opposition to unequal wages, unlimited distribution and equal distribution.

Thomas Hodgskin

How to Draw

Flag of Ricardian Socialism

The flag of Ricardian socialism is basically the same as the flag of classical liberalism, except for a red band in the center of the flag, symbolizing socialist economics.

  1. Draw a ball with Eyes.
  2. Draw a tricolour of Dark Blue, Red and White.
  3. (Optional) Give a fedora.
Color Name HEX RGB
White #FFFFFF 255, 255, 255
Red #C9352B 201, 53, 43
Dark Blue #39386E 57, 56, 110


Relationships

Friends

  • Ricardian Liberalism - My dad, who taught me much of what I know. Labor theory of value gang!
  • Mutualism - Proudhon, we have some disagreements, your usufruct-based infrastructure is a little shortsighted, but you know I love you!
  • Georgism - See, this is my kind of capitalism. Even if you're still a little top-heavy with the wealth, you do eliminate many of the perversions of the free market.

Frenemies

  • Classical Liberalism - The intellectual environment I grew out of, but don't you recognize the exploitative and inefficient nature of capitalism?
  • Marxism - Son, I still don't quite see why you lost the market, there are positive aspects to a competitive economy. That said, you have plenty of good ideas yourself, and more than a few of those came from me.

Enemies

  • Plutocracy - You're an economic drain, siphoning wealth away from the workers and contributing nothing valuable to the systems you control.
  • Mercantilism - Oh good lord, if it wasn't enough to exploit workers at home, you've decided to throw a little imperialism in to exploit the rest of the world, and eliminate the one good part of capitalism, free trade. I really hope capitalists in the future don't end up learning from you and exploiting foreign labor and consumption, impoverishing and enslaving the future equivalent of a colonial citizen .

Further information

Literature

Wikipedia

Gallery

Notes

  1. Not to be confused with Antonio Labriola Thought

Navigation

  1. To make it easier, a hypothetical example: In a sock factory, each worker earns 10 coins for every sock made, while socks are sold for 20 coins. It would then generate the exploitation of the salaried worker.More detailed Wikipedia page on the subject, in addition to recommending Marx's books