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[[File:Cball-EU.png]] '''Europe''' {{Collapse|
[[File:Cball-EU.png]] '''Europe''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Lenin.png]] [[Leninism|Vladimir Lenin]] (1870-1924) [[File:Cball-Russia.png]] Russia/[[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Lenin.png]] [[Leninism|Vladimir Lenin]] (1870-1924) [[File:Cball-Russia.png]] Russia/[[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Pieck.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Wilhelm Pieck]] (1876-1960) [[File:Cball-EastGermany.png]] Germany
*[[File:Pieck.png]] [[Marxism-Leninism|Wilhelm Pieck]] (1876-1960) [[File:Cball-EastGermany.png]] Germany
*[[File:JosephStalin.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Joseph Stalin]] (1878-1953) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:JosephStalin.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Joseph Stalin]] (1878-1953) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Lev_Davidovich_Bronstein.png]] [[Trotskyism|Leon Trotsky]] (1879-1940) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Lev_Davidovich_Bronstein.png]] [[Trotskyism|Leon Trotsky]] (1879-1940) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Dimitrov.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Georgi Dimitrov]] (1882-1949) [[File:Cball-PRBulgaria.png]] Bulgaria
*[[File:Dimitrov.png]] [[Marxism-Leninism|Georgi Dimitrov]] (1882-1949) [[File:Cball-PRBulgaria.png]] Bulgaria
*[[File:Bierut.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Boleslaw Bierut]] (1892-1956) [[File:Cball-PRPoland.png]] PR Poland
*[[File:Bierut.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Boleslaw Bierut]] (1892-1956) [[File:Cball-PRPoland.png]] PR Poland
*[[File:Rákosi.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Mátyás Rákosi]] (1892-1971) [[File:Cball-PRHungary.png]] Hungary
*[[File:Rákosi.png]] [[Marxism-Leninism|Mátyás Rákosi]] (1892-1971) [[File:Cball-PRHungary.png]] Hungary
*[[File:WalterUlbricht.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Walter Ulbricht]] (1893-1973) [[File:Cball-EastGermany.png]] Germany
*[[File:WalterUlbricht.png]] [[Marxism-Leninism|Walter Ulbricht]] (1893-1973) [[File:Cball-EastGermany.png]] Germany
*[[File:NikitaKhrushchev.png]] [[Khrushchevism|Nikita Khrushchev]] (1894-1971) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:NikitaKhrushchev.png]] [[Khrushchevism|Nikita Khrushchev]] (1894-1971) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Gottwald.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Klement Gottwald]] (1896-1953) [[File:Cball-Czechia.png]] Czechoslovakia
*[[File:Gottwald.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Klement Gottwald]] (1896-1953) [[File:Cball-Czechia.png]] Czechoslovakia
*[[File:Stalin.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Andrei Zhdanov]] (1896-1948) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Stalin.png]] [[Marxism-Leninism|Andrei Zhdanov]] (1896-1948) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Dimitrov.png]] [[National Communism|Valko]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Chervenkov]] (1900-1980) [[File:Cball-PRBulgaria.png]] Bulgaria
*[[File:Dimitrov.png]] [[National Communism|Valko]] [[Marxism-Leninism|Chervenkov]] (1900-1980) [[File:Cball-PRBulgaria.png]] Bulgaria
*[[File:Gheorghiu-Dej.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej]] (1901-1965) [[File:Cball-SRRomania.png]] SR Romania
*[[File:Gheorghiu-Dej.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej]] (1901-1965) [[File:Cball-SRRomania.png]] SR Romania
*[[File:Malenkov.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Georgy Malenkov]] (1901-1988) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Malenkov.png]] [[Marxism-Leninism|Georgy Malenkov]] (1901-1988) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:MikhailSUSlov.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Mikhail Suslov]] (1902-1982) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:MikhailSUSlov.png]] [[Marxism-Leninism|Mikhail Suslov]] (1902-1982) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Gomułka.png]] [[National Communism|Władysław Gomułka]] (1905-1982) [[File:Cball-PRPoland.png]] Poland
*[[File:Gomułka.png]] [[National Communism|Władysław Gomułka]] (1905-1982) [[File:Cball-PRPoland.png]] Poland
*[[File:Brezhnev.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Lenoid Brezhnev]] (1906-1982) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Brezhnev.png]] [[Marxism-Leninism|Lenoid Brezhnev]] (1906-1982) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:EnverHoxha.png]] [[Hoxhaism|Enver Hoxha]] (1908-1985) [[File:Cball-PSRAlbania.png]] Albania
*[[File:EnverHoxha.png]] [[Hoxhaism|Enver Hoxha]] (1908-1985) [[File:Cball-PSRAlbania.png]] Albania
*[[File:Husak.png]] [[National Communism|Gustáv Husák]] (1913-1991) [[File:Cball-Czechia.png]] Czechoslovakia
*[[File:Husak.png]] [[National Communism|Gustáv Husák]] (1913-1991) [[File:Cball-Czechia.png]] Czechoslovakia
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*[[File:MaoHair.png]] [[Maoism|Mao Zedong]] (1893-1976) [[File:Cball-China.png]] China
*[[File:MaoHair.png]] [[Maoism|Mao Zedong]] (1893-1976) [[File:Cball-China.png]] China
*[[File:KimIlSung.png]] [[Juche|Kim Il Sung]] (1912-1994) [[File:Cball-North_Korea.png]] North Korea
*[[File:KimIlSung.png]] [[Juche|Kim Il Sung]] (1912-1994) [[File:Cball-North_Korea.png]] North Korea
*[[File:Tsedenbal.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Yumjaagiin Tsedenbal]] (1916-1991) [[File:Cball-Mongolia.png]] Mongolia
*[[File:Tsedenbal.png]] [[Marxism-Leninism|Yumjaagiin Tsedenbal]] (1916-1991) [[File:Cball-Mongolia.png]] Mongolia
*[[File:Taraki.png]] [[National Communism|Nur Muhammad Taraki]] (1917-1979) [[File:Cball-DRAfghanistan.png]] Afghanistan
*[[File:Taraki.png]] [[National Communism|Nur Muhammad Taraki]] (1917-1979) [[File:Cball-DRAfghanistan.png]] Afghanistan
*[[File:Polpot.png]] [[Pol Potism|Pol Pot]] (1925-1998) [[File:Cball-Cambodia.png]] Cambodia
*[[File:Polpot.png]] [[Pol Potism|Pol Pot]] (1925-1998) [[File:Cball-Cambodia.png]] Cambodia
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==How to Draw==
==How to Draw==
{{Flag|Statesoc_flag.svg}}
{{Flag|Statesoc_flag.svg}}
To draw StateSoc, simply draw the [[Community:Values|8values]] Security symbol with communist colors.
To draw StateSoc, simply draw the [[Values|8values]] Security symbol with communist colors.
#Draw a red ball with a black outline.
#Draw a red ball with a black outline.
#Draw a yellow hammer.
#Draw a yellow hammer.
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*[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism]] - My father, from whom I got all my views. We're very similar. He needs more state, though.
*[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism]] - My father, from whom I got all my views. We're very similar. He needs more state, though.
*[[File:Blanqui.png]] [[Blanquism]] - Based! You really get me!
*[[File:Blanqui.png]] [[Blanquism]] - Based! You really get me!
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*[[File:Monsoc.png]] [[Monarcho-Socialism]] - Fellow statist socialist.
*[[File:Nazbol.png]] [[National Bolshevism]] -Same as above, you are my nationalist version.
*[[File:Posadist.png]] [[Posadism]] - Socialist states in space!? If that's not a paradise, I don't know what is.
*[[File:Posadist.png]] [[Posadism]] - Socialist states in space!? If that's not a paradise, I don't know what is.
*[[File:Fitzhugh.png]] [[Reactionary Socialism|Fitzhughism]] - "Slavery is the form, and the very best form, of socialism."
*[[File:Fitzhugh.png]] [[Reactionary Socialism|Fitzhughism]] - "Slavery is the form, and the very best form, of socialism."
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*[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism]] - My misguided brother. At least Wolff defined me.
*[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism]] - My misguided brother. At least Wolff defined me.
*[[File:Demsocstar.png]] [[Democratic Socialism]] - You're on the right track, but the "democracy" part is cringe.
*[[File:Demsocstar.png]] [[Democratic Socialism]] - You're on the right track, but the "democracy" part is cringe.
*[[File:Libsoc.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism]] - Strong government can strengthen socialism, actually. The state manages factories for the proletariat to work in and central economics are very efficient. No, that´s not a [[File:Statecap.png]] bureaucracy <s>I promise</s>.
*[[File:Minsocf.png]] [[Minarcho-Socialism]] - Socialism '''is''' when the government does stuff! Even they agree!
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*[[File:Monsoc.png]] [[Monarcho-Socialism]] - Almost great, but what's that about monarchism?
*[[File:Statecap.png]] [[State Capitalism]] - WE ARE NOT THE SAME!! Still love you, brother, even when you confuse me.
*[[File:Statecap.png]] [[State Capitalism]] - WE ARE NOT THE SAME!! Still love you, brother, even when you confuse me.
*[[File:Dengf.png]] [[Dengism]] - [[File:Authcomcap.png]] Authoritarian Communo-Capitalism? Isn't that just [[File:Statecap.png]] Statecap again?
*[[File:Dengf.png]] [[Dengism]] - [[File:Authcomcap.png]] Authoritarian Communo-Capitalism? Isn't that just [[File:Statecap.png]] Statecap again?
*[[File:Fabian.png]] [[Fabian Socialism]] - I love you son, but you scare me.
*[[File:Fabian.png]] [[Fabian Socialism]] - I love you son, but you scare me.
*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] - Realizes that socialism needs the state in order to be achieved. But why do you wanna get rid of it afterwards? Your [[File:ML.png]] son is way cooler anyway.
*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] - Realizes that socialism needs the state in order to be achieved. But why do you wanna get rid of it afterwards? Your [[File:ML.png]] son is way cooler anyway.
*[[File:Nazbol.png]] [[National Bolshevism]] - I can tolerate you since our views are mostly similar, but if you pull a Nazi on me, '''I'll make you regret it'''.
*[[File:Utsoc.png]] [[Utopian Socialism]] - Most are too libertarian, but Moore supported an authoritarian society.
*[[File:Utsoc.png]] [[Utopian Socialism]] - Most are too libertarian, but Moore supported an authoritarian society.
*[[File:Ingsocf.png]] [[Ingsoc]] - You take things too far. We are not the same.
*[[File:Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]] - HAHAHA, you want to abolish the transition state that quickly? Good luck when foreign forces and infighting destroy your socialist utopia!!
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*[[File:Nazi.png]] [[Nazism]] - You claimed to be an authoritarian socialist but you just 3rd posistionist maniac who is explicitly anti-equality.
*[[File:Socauth.png]] [[Social Authoritarianism]] - On one hand, we both like Nasser and Velasco. On the other hand, Thaksin is a filthy authcap, and Alia ended Hoxhaism.
*[[File:Fash.png]] [[Fascism]] - Filthy f*shie, go cry in a corner. <s>Although you used to be one of me</s>
*[[File:Socauth.png]] [[Social Authoritarianism]] - On one hand, we both like Nasser and Velasco. On the other hand, Thaksin is a filthy authcap.
*[[File:Mussolini.png]] [[Fascism]] - Filthy f*shie. <s>Although you used to be one of me</s>


===Enemies===
===Enemies===
*[[File:Cap.png]] [[Capitalism]] - Free market? The only thing it gives is the freedom to oppress workers.
*[[File:Cap.png]] [[Capitalism]] - Free market? The only thing it gives is the freedom to oppress workers.
*[[File:Ancapf.png]] [[Anarcho-Capitalism]] - '''NO.'''
*[[File:Ancapf.png]] [[Anarcho-Capitalism]] - '''NO.'''
*[[File:Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]] - An anarkiddy who does not understand that an authoritarian government is necessary to build socialism.
*[[File:Authcap.png]] [[Authoritarian Capitalism]] - My evil bourgeois twin.
*[[File:Authcap.png]] [[Authoritarian Capitalism]] - My evil bourgeois twin.
*[[File:Statlib.png]] [[State Liberalism]] - And no, I don't care about pink paint.
*[[File:Statlib.png]] [[State Liberalism]] - And no, I don't care about pink paint.
*[[File:Bism.png]] [[Bismarckism]] - Why must you use my name like this?
*[[File:Bism.png]] [[Bismarckism]] - Why must you use my name like this?
*[[File:Ingsocf.png]] [[Ingsoc]] - You take things too far. We are not the same.
*[[File:Libertarian.png]] [[Libertarianism]] - Why yes, socialism '''is''' when the government does stuff, why do you a
*[[File:Libertarian.png]] [[Libertarianism]] - Why yes, socialism '''is''' when the government does stuff, why do you ask?
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*[[File:Nazi.png]] [[Nazism]] - You're not a socialist, you're just another 3rd positionist maniac who is explicitly anti-equality.
*[[File:Gorb.png]] [[Liberal Socialism|Gorbachevism]] - You're a disgrace to socialism! You ruined the Soviet Union!
*[[File:Gorb.png]] [[Liberal Socialism|Gorbachevism]] - You're a disgrace to socialism! You ruined the Soviet Union!


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State Socialism (StateSoc) or Authoritarian Socialism is an economically left-wing ideology that believes in the presence of centralized authority, state ownership of the means of production by a worker's party and/or a state-planned economy is a necessity in transitioning from Capitalism to Socialism. While state socialism is often utilized as a means to an end in achieving communism (a stateless, classless, moneyless society), by ideologies like Marxism–Leninism, some advocates believe that state socialism is itself the end goal.

History

Proto-State Socialism can be seen in Thomas More's Utopia, as his ideal society has state control over production and housing, combined with a slave system. George Fitzhugh can also debatably be seen as a proto-state socialist as he claimed slavery was the best form of socialism while opposing free-market capitalism as being anti-slavery (and saw it as a bad thing).

State Socialism arguably first was implemented in 1871 when the Paris Commune came around as a 'state'. But this is up for debate as the Paris Commune acted more like Libertarian Socialism and sometimes even Anarcho-Communism, and didn't really function as a state nor was recognized as such.

The real start of State Socialism was in 1917 when the Bolsheviks, led by Vladimir Lenin, overthrew the Russian Republic and established the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR). In 1922, this became the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR). The USSR changed to become even more State Socialist after Stalin took over in 1925 and combined it with Police Statism and Authoritarianism. A lot of this was ruled back during the Khrushchevist and, especially, Gorbachevist eras of the USSR.

China, officially the Peoples' Republic of China (PRC), was ruled under a State Socialist regime called Maoism from 1954-1981.

North Korea, officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK), has been ruled by a State Socialist regime called Juche since its creation in 1948.

Difference Between State Socialism And State Capitalism

Economic System: State Capitalism is an economic system where the state plays an active role in business or commercial activity, either directly or indirectly, while State Socialism is an economically left-wing ideology that believes in the presence of centralized authority, state ownership of the means of production by a worker's party and/or a state-planned economy is a necessity in transitioning from Capitalism to Socialism.

Role of the State: In State Capitalism, the state takes an active role in business or commercial activity. This can be direct in the form of state-owned enterprises or companies where the state has controlling shares, indirect in the form of state planning through government agencies organized along for-profit and business management lines, or through state-sponsored private business activities. On the other hand, in State Socialism, the state is responsible for owning and controlling the means of production to ensure a transition from capitalism to socialism.

Goal: The goal of State Capitalism is not clearly defined. It is usually seen as economically centrist since it denies the means of production to workers, yet is often collectivist in nature. However, State Socialism aims to transition from capitalism to socialism through state ownership of the means of production, and ultimately to a stateless, classless, moneyless society.

Ownership of Means of Production: In State Capitalism, the state may own or control all the means of production or may be the primary shareholder, while in State Socialism, the state owns the means of production and ensures that the workers have access to it.

Political Ideology: State Capitalism is not inherently tied to any specific political ideology, while State Socialism is a left-wing ideology.

Personality

This, but unironically.

How to Draw

Flag of State Socialism

To draw StateSoc, simply draw the 8values Security symbol with communist colors.

  1. Draw a red ball with a black outline.
  2. Draw a yellow hammer.
  3. Add eyes and you're done.
Color Name HEX RGB
Red #CC0000 204, 0, 0
Yellow #FFDD00 255, 221, 0


Relationships

Friends

  • Marxism–Leninism - Me, but with a new name, backstory, lore, etc.
  • Arab Socialism - Based Arab counterpart who isn't afraid to use state power.
  • Socialism - My father, from whom I got all my views. We're very similar. He needs more state, though.
  • Blanquism - Based! You really get me!
  • Monarcho-Socialism - Fellow statist socialist.
  • National Bolshevism -Same as above, you are my nationalist version.
  • Posadism - Socialist states in space!? If that's not a paradise, I don't know what is.
  • Fitzhughism - "Slavery is the form, and the very best form, of socialism."
  • Cybercommunism - Makes my job even easier!

Frenemies

  • Market Socialism - My misguided brother. At least Wolff defined me.
  • Democratic Socialism - You're on the right track, but the "democracy" part is cringe.
  • State Capitalism - WE ARE NOT THE SAME!! Still love you, brother, even when you confuse me.
  • Dengism - Authoritarian Communo-Capitalism? Isn't that just Statecap again?
  • Fabian Socialism - I love you son, but you scare me.
  • Marxism - Realizes that socialism needs the state in order to be achieved. But why do you wanna get rid of it afterwards? Your son is way cooler anyway.
  • Utopian Socialism - Most are too libertarian, but Moore supported an authoritarian society.
  • Ingsoc - You take things too far. We are not the same.
  • Nazism - You claimed to be an authoritarian socialist but you just 3rd posistionist maniac who is explicitly anti-equality.
  • Social Authoritarianism - On one hand, we both like Nasser and Velasco. On the other hand, Thaksin is a filthy authcap.
  • Fascism - Filthy f*shie. Although you used to be one of me

Enemies

Further Information

Literature

Wikipedia

Video

Socialism is when the government does stuff

Citations


Gallery

  • Credit: u/duy_physics, Source

    Credit: u/duy_physics, Source

  • Staswalle's drawing

    Staswalle's drawing

  • Authoritarian Socialism

    Authoritarian Socialism

  • Authoritarian Socialism with new design

    Authoritarian Socialism with new design

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