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|caption="Socialism '''IS''' when the government does stuff!"
|caption="Socialism '''IS''' when the government does stuff!"
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[[File:AuthSoc.png]] Authoritarian Socialism<br>
[[File:AuthSoc.png]] {{PCBA|Authoritarian Socialism}}<br>
[[File:LeftAutho.png]] Left-Authoritarianism<br>
[[File:LeftAutho.png]] Left-Authoritarianism<br>
[[File:Authequality.png]] Authoritarian Egalitarianism<br>
[[File:SocAbove.png]] Socialism from above<br>
[[File:SocAbove.png]] Socialism from above<br>
ML praxis<br>
ML praxis<br>
Bureaucratic Socialism (most)<br>
[[File:TankieDictature.png]] Red dictator [[File:RedTerror.png]]<br>
{{Alias|Libmarx.png|Libertarian Socialism|Servile belief in the state}}<br>
{{Alias|Libleft.png|:Category:Libertarian Left|[[File:Statecap.png]] [[State Capitalism]]}}<br>
{{Alias|Libleft.png|:Category:Libertarian Left|[[File:Statecap.png]] [[State Capitalism]]}}<br>
{{Alias|Libertarian.png|Libertarianism|Literally [[File:Sanders.png]] [[Left-Wing Populism|Bernie Sanders!]]}}<br>
{{Alias|Libertarian.png|Libertarianism|When the government does stuff}}<br>
{{Alias|Thatcher.png|Neoliberalism|Literally [[File:ClementAttlee.png]] [[Democratic Socialism|Clement Attlee!]]}}<br>
{{Alias|Thatcher.png|Neoliberalism|Literally [[File:ClementAttlee.png]] [[Democratic Socialism|Clement Attlee!]]}}<br>
{{Alias|Sorel.png|Syndicalism|[[File:ClassDistr.png]] The Ideal of the Petit Bourgeoisie}}<br>
{{Alias|Sorel.png|Syndicalism|[[File:ClassDistr.png]] The Ideal of the Petit Bourgeoisie}}<br>
<s>The government doing stuff</s>
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|influences=
|influences=
[[File:Sec.png]] [[Authoritarianism]]<br>
[[File:Sec.png]] [[Authoritarianism]]<br>
[[File:Paternalism.png]] [[Paternalism]]<br>
[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism]]<br>
[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism]]<br>
[[File:Statist.png]] {{PCBA|Statism}}
[[File:Statist.png]] {{PCBA|Statism}}
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[[File:Utopianism2.png]] [[Utopian Socialism|Utopianism]]<br>
[[File:Utopianism2.png]] [[Utopian Socialism|Utopianism]]<br>
}}
}}
|variants=
|theorists=
|theorists=
[[File:PanAmer.png]] '''Americas''' {{Collapse|
[[File:PanAmer.png]] '''Americas''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Fitzhugh.png]] [[Reactionary Socialism|George Fitzhugh]] (1806-1881) [[File:Cball-US.png]] [[File:Cball-CSA.png]] USA/CSA
*[[File:Fitzhugh.png]] [[Reactionary Socialism|George Fitzhugh]] (1806-1881) [[File:Cball-US.png]] [[File:Cball-CSA.png]] USA/CSA
*[[File:FidelCastro.png]] [[National Communism|Fidel Castro]] (1926-2016) [[File:Cball-Cuba.png]] Cuba
*[[File:FidelCastro.png]] [[National Communism|Fidel Castro]] (1926-2016) [[File:Cball-Cuba.png]] {{PBW|Cubaball|Cuba}}
}}
}}
[[File:Cball-Commonwealth.png]] '''Commonwealth Realm''' {{Collapse|
[[File:Cball-Commonwealth.png]] '''Commonwealth Realm''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Utopianism2.png]] [[Utopian Socialism|Thomas More]] (1478-1535) [[File:Cball-England.png]] England
*[[File:Utopianism2.png]] [[Utopian Socialism|Thomas More]] (1478-1535) [[File:Cball-England.png]] {{PBW|Englandball|England}}
}}
}}
[[File:Cball-EU.png]] '''Europe''' {{Collapse|
[[File:Cball-EU.png]] '''Europe''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Lenin.png]] [[Leninism|Vladimir Lenin]] (1870-1924) [[File:Cball-Russia.png]] Russia/[[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Lenin.png]] [[Leninism|Vladimir Lenin]] (1870-1924) [[File:Cball-Russia.png]] Russia/[[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Pieck.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Wilhelm Pieck]] (1876-1960) [[File:Cball-EastGermany.png]] Germany
*[[File:Pieck.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Wilhelm Pieck]] (1876-1960) [[File:Cball-EastGermany.png]] {{PBW|Germanyball|Germany}}
*[[File:JosephStalin.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Joseph Stalin]] (1878-1953) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:JosephStalin.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Joseph Stalin]] (1878-1953) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Lev_Davidovich_Bronstein.png]] [[Trotskyism|Leon Trotsky]] (1879-1940) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Lev_Davidovich_Bronstein.png]] [[Trotskyism|Leon Trotsky]] (1879-1940) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Dimitrov.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Georgi Dimitrov]] (1882-1949) [[File:Cball-PRBulgaria.png]] Bulgaria
*[[File:Dimitrov.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Georgi Dimitrov]] (1882-1949) [[File:Cball-PRBulgaria.png]] {{PBW|Bulgariaball|Bulgaria}}
*[[File:Bierut.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Boleslaw Bierut]] (1892-1956) [[File:Cball-PRPoland.png]] PR Poland
*[[File:Bierut.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Boleslaw Bierut]] (1892-1956) [[File:Cball-PRPoland.png]] PR {{PBW|Polandball|Poland}}
*[[File:Rákosi.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Mátyás Rákosi]] (1892-1971) [[File:Cball-PRHungary.png]] Hungary
*[[File:Rákosi.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Mátyás Rákosi]] (1892-1971) [[File:Cball-PRHungary.png]] {{PBW|Hungaryball|Hungary}}
*[[File:WalterUlbricht.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Walter Ulbricht]] (1893-1973) [[File:Cball-EastGermany.png]] Germany
*[[File:WalterUlbricht.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Walter Ulbricht]] (1893-1973) [[File:Cball-EastGermany.png]] {{PBW|Germanyball|Germany}}
*[[File:NikitaKhrushchev.png]] [[Khrushchevism|Nikita Khrushchev]] (1894-1971) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:NikitaKhrushchev.png]] [[Khrushchevism|Nikita Khrushchev]] (1894-1971) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Gottwald.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Klement Gottwald]] (1896-1953) [[File:Cball-Czechia.png]] Czechoslovakia
*[[File:Gottwald.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Klement Gottwald]] (1896-1953) [[File:Cball-Czechia.png]] Czechoslovakia
*[[File:Stalin.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Andrei Zhdanov]] (1896-1948) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Stalin.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Andrei Zhdanov]] (1896-1948) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Dimitrov.png]] [[National Communism|Valko]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Chervenkov]] (1900-1980) [[File:Cball-PRBulgaria.png]] Bulgaria
*[[File:Dimitrov.png]] [[National Communism|Valko]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Chervenkov]] (1900-1980) [[File:Cball-PRBulgaria.png]] {{PBW|Bulgariaball|Bulgaria}}
*[[File:Gheorghiu-Dej.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej]] (1901-1965) [[File:Cball-SRRomania.png]] SR Romania
*[[File:Gheorghiu-Dej.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej]] (1901-1965) [[File:Cball-SRRomania.png]] SR {{PBW|Romaniaball|Romania}}
*[[File:Malenkov.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Georgy Malenkov]] (1901-1988) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Malenkov.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Georgy Malenkov]] (1901-1988) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:MikhailSUSlov.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Mikhail Suslov]] (1902-1982) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:MikhailSUSlov.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Mikhail Suslov]] (1902-1982) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Gomułka.png]] [[National Communism|Władysław Gomułka]] (1905-1982) [[File:Cball-PRPoland.png]] Poland
*[[File:Gomułka.png]] [[National Communism|Władysław Gomułka]] (1905-1982) [[File:Cball-PRPoland.png]] {{PBW|Polandball|Poland}}
*[[File:Brezhnev.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Lenoid Brezhnev]] (1906-1982) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:Brezhnev.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Lenoid Brezhnev]] (1906-1982) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:EnverHoxha.png]] [[Hoxhaism|Enver Hoxha]] (1908-1985) [[File:Cball-PSRAlbania.png]] Albania
*[[File:EnverHoxha.png]] [[Hoxhaism|Enver Hoxha]] (1908-1985) [[File:Cball-PSRAlbania.png]] {{PBW|Albaniaball|Albania}}
*[[File:Husak.png]] [[National Communism|Gustáv Husák]] (1913-1991) [[File:Cball-Czechia.png]] Czechoslovakia
*[[File:Husak.png]] [[National Communism|Gustáv Husák]] (1913-1991) [[File:Cball-Czechia.png]] Czechoslovakia
*[[File:NicolaeCeaușescu.png]] [[National Communism|Nicolae Ceaușescu]] (1918-1989) [[File:Cball-SRRomania.png]] Romania
*[[File:NicolaeCeaușescu.png]] [[National Communism|Nicolae Ceaușescu]] (1918-1989) [[File:Cball-SRRomania.png]] {{PBW|Romaniaball|Romania}}
}}
}}
[[File:PanAsian.png]] '''Asia''' {{Collapse|
[[File:PanAsian.png]] '''Asia''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:MaoHair.png]] [[Maoism|Mao Zedong]] (1893-1976) [[File:Cball-China.png]] China
*[[File:MaoHair.png]] [[Maoism|Mao Zedong]] (1893-1976) [[File:Cball-China.png]] {{PBW|Chinaball|China}}
*[[File:KimIlSung.png]] [[Juche|Kim Il Sung]] (1912-1994) [[File:Cball-North_Korea.png]] North Korea
*[[File:KimIlSung.png]] [[Juche|Kim Il Sung]] (1912-1994) [[File:Cball-North_Korea.png]] {{PBW|North Koreaball|North Korea}}
*[[File:Tsedenbal.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Yumjaagiin Tsedenbal]] (1916-1991) [[File:Cball-Mongolia.png]] Mongolia
*[[File:Tsedenbal.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Yumjaagiin Tsedenbal]] (1916-1991) [[File:Cball-Mongolia.png]] {{PBW|Mongoliaball|Mongolia}}
*[[File:Taraki.png]] [[National Communism|Nur Muhammad Taraki]] (1917-1979) [[File:Cball-DRAfghanistan.png]] Afghanistan
*[[File:Taraki.png]] [[National Communism|Nur Muhammad Taraki]] (1917-1979) [[File:Cball-DRAfghanistan.png]] {{PBW|Afghanistanball|Afghanistan}}
*[[File:Polpot.png]] [[Pol Potism|Pol Pot]] (1925-1998) [[File:Cball-Cambodia.png]] Cambodia
*[[File:Polpot.png]] [[Pol Potism|Pol Pot]] (1925-1998) [[File:Cball-Cambodia.png]] {{PBW|Cambodiaball|Cambodia}}
*[[File:Amin.png]] [[National Communism|Hafizullah Amin]] (1929-1979) [[File:Cball-DRAfghanistan.png]] Afghanistan
*[[File:Amin.png]] [[National Communism|Hafizullah Amin]] (1929-1979) [[File:Cball-DRAfghanistan.png]] {{PBW|Afghanistanball|Afghanistan}}
}}
}}
[[File:Cball-AfricanUnion.png]] '''Africa'''{{Collapse|
[[File:Cball-AfricanUnion.png]] '''Africa'''{{Collapse|
*[[File:Nkrumah.png]] [[African_Socialism#Nkrumaism|Kwame Nkrumah]] (1909-1972) [[File:Cball-Ghana.png]] Ghana
*[[File:Nkrumah.png]] [[African_Socialism#Nkrumaism|Kwame Nkrumah]] (1909-1972) [[File:Cball-Ghana.png]] {{PBW|Ghanaball|Ghana}}
*[[File:Nasser2.png]] [[Arab Socialism|Gamal Abdel Nasser]] (1918-1970) [[File:Cball-Egypt.png]] Egypt
*[[File:Nasser2.png]] [[Arab Socialism|Gamal Abdel Nasser]] (1918-1970) [[File:Cball-Egypt.png]] {{PBW|Egyptball|Egypt}}
*[[File:FLNStratoDictature.png]] [[Arab Socialism|Houari Boumédiène]] (1932-1978) [[File:Cball-Algeria.png]] Algeria
*[[File:FLNStratoDictature.png]] [[Arab Socialism|Houari Boumédiène]] (1932-1978) [[File:Cball-Algeria.png]] {{PBW|Algeriaball|Algeria}}
*[[File:Sankara.png]] [[African Socialism#Sankarism|Thomas Sankara]] (1949-1987) [[File:Cball-Burkina Faso.png]] Burkina Faso
*[[File:Sankara.png]] [[African Socialism#Sankarism|Thomas Sankara]] (1949-1987) [[File:Cball-Burkina Faso.png]] {{PBW|Burkina Fasoball|Burkina Faso}}
}}
}}
|examples=
|examples=
[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism|Paris Commune]] (1871, allegedly)<br>
*[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism|Paris Commune]] (1871, allegedly)
[[File:Cball-USSR.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Union of Soviet Socialist Republics]] (1922-1985)<br>
*[[File:Cball-USSR.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Union of Soviet Socialist Republics]] (1922-1985)
[[File:Cball-PSRAlbania.png]] [[Hoxhaism|People's Socialist Republic of Albania]] (1945-1985)<br>
*[[File:Cball-PSRAlbania.png]] [[Hoxhaism|People's Socialist Republic of Albania]] (1945-1985)
[[File:Cball-North_Korea.png]] [[Juche|Democratic People's Republic of Korea]] (1948-1994)<br>
*[[File:Cball-North_Korea.png]] [[Juche|Democratic People's Republic of Korea]] (1948-)
[[File:Cball-China.png]] [[Maoism|People's Republic of China]] (1949-1981)<br>[[File:Cball-Egypt.png]] [[Arab Socialism|Republic of Egypt]] (1956-1970)<br>[[File:Cball-Algeria.png]] [[Arab Socialism|People's Democratic Republic of Algeria]] (1965-1978)
*[[File:Cball-China.png]] [[Maoism|People's Republic of China]] (1949-1981)
*[[File:Cball-Egypt.png]] [[Arab Socialism|Republic of Egypt]] (1956-1970)
*[[File:Cball-Algeria.png]] [[Arab Socialism|People's Democratic Republic of Algeria]] (1965-1978)
|likes=
|likes=
[[File:Cball-USSR.png]] The Soviet Union<br>
[[File:Cball-USSR.png]] The Soviet Union<br>
[[File:Cball-North_Korea.png]] North Korea<br>
[[File:Cball-North_Korea.png]] North Korea<br>
[[File:Cball-China.png]] China<br>
[[File:Cball-China.png]] China (before Deng)<br>
[[File:Cball-Egypt.png]] Nasserist Egypt<br>
[[File:Cball-Egypt.png]] Nasserist Egypt<br>
[[File:InfRevolutionaryism.png]] Revolution<br>
[[File:InfRevolutionaryism.png]] Revolution<br>
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{{Quote|
{{Quote|
quote="All concur that free society is a failure. We slaveholders say you must recur to domestic slavery, the oldest, the best and most common form of Socialism. The new schools of Socialism promise something better, but admit, to obtain that something, they must first destroy and eradicate man’s human nature."
quote="All concur that free society is a failure. We slaveholders say you must recur to domestic slavery, the oldest, the best and most common form of Socialism. The new schools of Socialism promise something better, but admit, to obtain that something, they must first destroy and eradicate man’s human nature."
|speaker=[[File:Fitzhugh.png]] [[Reactionaryism|George Fitzhugh]]
|speaker=[[File:Fitzhugh.png]] [[Reactionary Socialism|George Fitzhugh]]
|source = Sociology for the South: Or, The Failure of Free Society
|source = Sociology for the South: Or, The Failure of Free Society
}}
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State Socialism arguably first was implemented in 1871 when the [[File:Soc-h.png]] Paris Commune came around as a 'state'. But this is up for debate as the [[File:Soc-h.png]] Paris Commune acted more like [[File:Libsoc.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism]] and sometimes even [[File:Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]], and didn't really function as a state nor was recognized as such.
State Socialism arguably first was implemented in 1871 when the [[File:Soc-h.png]] Paris Commune came around as a 'state'. But this is up for debate as the [[File:Soc-h.png]] Paris Commune acted more like [[File:Libsoc.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism]] and sometimes even [[File:Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]], and didn't really function as a state nor was recognized as such.


The real start of State Socialism was in 1917 when the [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] Bolsheviks, led by [[File:Orthlen.png]] [[Leninism|Vladimir Lenin]], overthrew the [[File:Cball-Russia.png]] Russian Republic and established the [[File:Orthlen.png]] Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR). In 1922, this became the [[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Union of Soviet Socialist Republics]] (USSR). The [[File:ML.png]] USSR changed to become even more State Socialist after [[File:Stalin.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Stalin]] took over in 1925 and combined it with [[File:PolState.png]] [[Police Statism]] and [[File:Sec.png]] [[Authoritarianism]]. A lot of this was ruled back during the [[File:Khrusch.png]] [[Khrushchevism|Khrushchevist]] and, especially, [[File:Gorb.png]] [[Liberal Socialism|Gorbachevist]] eras of the [[File:ML.png]] USSR.
The real start of State Socialism was in 1917 when the [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] Bolsheviks, led by [[File:Orthlen.png]] [[Leninism|Vladimir Lenin]], overthrew the [[File:Cball-Russia.png]] Russian Republic and established the [[File:Orthlen.png]] Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR). In 1922, this became the [[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Union of Soviet Socialist Republics]] (USSR). The [[File:ML.png]] USSR changed to become even more State Socialist after [[File:Stalin.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Stalin]] took over in 1925 and combined it with [[File:PolState.png]] [[Police Statism]] and [[File:Sec.png]] [[Authoritarianism]]. A lot of elements of the planned economy was rolled back during the [[File:Gorb.png]] [[Liberal Socialism|Perestroika]] era of the [[File:ML.png]] USSR.


[[File:Cball-China.png]] China, officially the Peoples' Republic of China (PRC), was ruled under a State Socialist regime called [[File:Mao.png]] [[Maoism]] from 1954-1981.
[[File:Cball-China.png]] China, officially the Peoples' Republic of China (PRC), was ruled under a State Socialist regime called [[File:Mao.png]] [[Maoism]] from 1954-1981.
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===Friends===
===Friends===
*[[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism]] - Me, but with a new name, backstory, lore, etc.
*[[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism]] - Me, but with a new name, backstory, lore, etc.
*[[File:Absoc.png]] [[Arab Socialism]] - Based Arab counterpart who isn't afraid to use state power.
*[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism]] - My father, from whom I got all my views. We're very similar. He needs more state, though.
*[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism]] - My father, from whom I got all my views. We're very similar. He needs more state, though.
*[[File:Blanqui.png]] [[Blanquism]] - Based! You really get me!
*[[File:Blanqui.png]] [[Blanquism]] - Based! You really get me!
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===Frenemies===
===Frenemies===
*[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism]] - My misguided brother. At least Wolff defined me.
*[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism]] - My misguided brother. At least Wolff defined me.
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*[[File:Libsoc.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism]] - Strong government can strengthen socialism, actually. The state manages factories for the proletariat to work in and central economics are very efficient. No, that's not a [[File:Statecap.png]] bureaucracy <s>I promise</s>.
*[[File:Demsocstar.png]] [[Democratic Socialism]] - You're on the right track, but the "democracy" part is cringe.
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*[[File:Libsoc.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism]] - Strong government can strengthen socialism, actually. The state manages factories for the proletariat to work in and central economics are very efficient. No, that´s not a [[File:Statecap.png]] bureaucracy <s>I promise</s>.
*[[File:Minsocf.png]] [[Minarcho-Socialism]] - Socialism '''is''' when the government does stuff! Even they agree!
*[[File:Minsocf.png]] [[Minarcho-Socialism]] - Socialism '''is''' when the government does stuff! Even they agree!
*[[File:Monsoc.png]] [[Monarcho-Socialism]] - Almost great, but what's that about monarchism?
*[[File:Monsoc.png]] [[Monarcho-Socialism]] - Almost great, but what's that about monarchism?
*[[File:Statecap.png]] [[State Capitalism]] - WE ARE NOT THE SAME!! Still love you, brother, even when you confuse me.
*[[File:Statecap.png]] [[State Capitalism]] - WE ARE NOT THE SAME!! Still love you even when we don't have the same goals.
*[[File:Dengf.png]] [[Dengism]] - [[File:Authcomcap.png]] Authoritarian Communo-Capitalism? Isn't that just [[File:Statecap.png]] Statecap again?
*[[File:Dengf.png]] [[Dengism]] - Same as above. Mao was still better than you.
*[[File:Fabian.png]] [[Fabian Socialism]] - I love you son, but you scare me.
*[[File:Fabian.png]] [[Fabian Socialism]] - I love you son, but you scare me.
*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] - Realizes that socialism needs the state in order to be achieved. But why do you wanna get rid of it afterwards? Your [[File:ML.png]] son is way cooler anyway.
*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] - Realizes that socialism needs the state in order to be achieved. But why do you wanna get rid of it afterwards? Your [[File:ML.png]] son is way cooler anyway.
*[[File:Nazbol.png]] [[National Bolshevism]] - I can tolerate you since our views are mostly similar, but if you pull a Nazi on me, '''I'll make you regret it'''.
*[[File:Nazbol.png]] [[National Bolshevism]] - I can tolerate you since our views are mostly similar, but if you pull a Nazi on me, '''I'll make you regret it'''.
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*[[File:Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]] - HAHAHA, you want to abolish the transition state that quickly? Good luck when foreign forces and infighting destroy your socialist utopia!! <s>At least we both hate [[File:Markets.png]] markets.</s>
*[[File:Utsoc.png]] [[Utopian Socialism]] - Most are too libertarian, but Moore supported an authoritarian society.
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*[[File:Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]] - HAHAHA, you want to abolish the transition state that quickly? Good luck when foreign forces and infighting destroy your socialist utopia!!
*[[File:Socauth.png]] [[Social Authoritarianism]] - On one hand, we both like Nasser and Velasco. On the other hand, Thaksin is a filthy authcap, and Alia ended Hoxhaism.
*[[File:Socauth.png]] [[Social Authoritarianism]] - On one hand, we both like Nasser and Velasco. On the other hand, Thaksin is a filthy authcap, and Alia ended Hoxhaism.
*[[File:Fash.png]] [[Fascism]] - Filthy f*shie, go cry in a corner. <s>Although you used to be one of me</s>

===Enemies===
===Enemies===
*[[File:Cap.png]] [[Capitalism]] - Free market? The only thing it gives is the freedom to oppress workers.
*[[File:Cap.png]] [[Capitalism]] - Free market? The only thing it gives is the freedom to oppress workers.
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*[[File:Statlib.png]] [[State Liberalism]] - And no, I don't care about pink paint.
*[[File:Statlib.png]] [[State Liberalism]] - And no, I don't care about pink paint.
*[[File:Bism.png]] [[Bismarckism]] - Why must you use my name like this?
*[[File:Bism.png]] [[Bismarckism]] - Why must you use my name like this?
*[[File:Ingsocf.png]] [[Ingsoc]] - You take things too far. We are not the same.
*[[File:Fash.png]] [[Fascism]] - Filthy f*shie, go cry in a corner. <s>Although you used to be one of me</s>
*[[File:Ingsocf.png]] [[Ingsoc]] - We are not the same. And you are not even a [[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism|Socialist]], just an economically apathetic and generically statist [[file:Caste.png]] casteist.
*[[File:Libertarian.png]] [[Libertarianism]] - Why yes, socialism '''is''' when the government does stuff, why do you ask?
*[[File:Libertarian.png]] [[Libertarianism]] - Why yes, socialism '''is''' when the government does stuff, why do you ask?
*[[File:Nazi.png]] [[Nazism]] - You're not a socialist, you're just another 3rd positionist maniac who is explicitly anti-equality.
*[[File:Nazi.png]] [[Nazism]] - You're not a socialist, you're just another 3rd positionist maniac who is explicitly anti-equality.
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===Video===
===Video===
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0EYo_ZQVU Socialism is when the government does stuff]

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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0EYo_ZQVU Socialism is when the government does stuff]


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"How “troublesome”! cried the liberal pig, which deems itself educated, but in fact is dirty, repulsive, overfat and smug"

"All concur that free society is a failure. We slaveholders say you must recur to domestic slavery, the oldest, the best and most common form of Socialism. The new schools of Socialism promise something better, but admit, to obtain that something, they must first destroy and eradicate man’s human nature."

George Fitzhugh, Sociology for the South: Or, The Failure of Free Society

State Socialism (StateSoc) or Authoritarian Socialism is an economically left-wing ideology that believes in the presence of centralized authority, state ownership of the means of production by a worker's party and/or a state-planned economy is a necessity in transitioning from Capitalism to Socialism. While state socialism is often utilized as a means to an end in achieving communism (a stateless, classless, moneyless society), by ideologies like Marxism–Leninism, some advocates believe that state socialism is itself the end goal.

History

Proto-State Socialism can be seen in Thomas More's Utopia, as his ideal society has state control over production and housing, combined with a slave system. George Fitzhugh can also debatably be seen as a proto-state socialist as he claimed slavery was the best form of socialism while opposing free-market capitalism as being anti-slavery (and saw it as a bad thing).

State Socialism arguably first was implemented in 1871 when the Paris Commune came around as a 'state'. But this is up for debate as the Paris Commune acted more like Libertarian Socialism and sometimes even Anarcho-Communism, and didn't really function as a state nor was recognized as such.

The real start of State Socialism was in 1917 when the Bolsheviks, led by Vladimir Lenin, overthrew the Russian Republic and established the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR). In 1922, this became the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR). The USSR changed to become even more State Socialist after Stalin took over in 1925 and combined it with Police Statism and Authoritarianism. A lot of elements of the planned economy was rolled back during the Perestroika era of the USSR.

China, officially the Peoples' Republic of China (PRC), was ruled under a State Socialist regime called Maoism from 1954-1981.

North Korea, officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK), has been ruled by a State Socialist regime called Juche since its creation in 1948.

Difference Between State Socialism And State Capitalism

Economic System: State Capitalism is an economic system where the state plays an active role in business or commercial activity, either directly or indirectly, while State Socialism is an economically left-wing ideology that believes in the presence of centralized authority, state ownership of the means of production by a worker's party and/or a state-planned economy is a necessity in transitioning from Capitalism to Socialism.

Role of the State: In State Capitalism, the state takes an active role in business or commercial activity. This can be direct in the form of state-owned enterprises or companies where the state has controlling shares, indirect in the form of state planning through government agencies organized along for-profit and business management lines, or through state-sponsored private business activities. On the other hand, in State Socialism, the state is responsible for owning and controlling the means of production to ensure a transition from capitalism to socialism.

Goal: The goal of State Capitalism is not clearly defined. It is usually seen as economically centrist since it denies the means of production to workers, yet is often collectivist in nature. However, State Socialism aims to transition from capitalism to socialism through state ownership of the means of production, and ultimately to a stateless, classless, moneyless society.

Ownership of Means of Production: In State Capitalism, the state may own or control all the means of production or may be the primary shareholder, while in State Socialism, the state owns the means of production and ensures that the workers have access to it.

Political Ideology: State Capitalism is not inherently tied to any specific political ideology, while State Socialism is a left-wing ideology.

Personality

This, but unironically.

How to Draw

Flag of State Socialism

To draw StateSoc, simply draw the 8values Security symbol with communist colors.

  1. Draw a red ball with a black outline.
  2. Draw a yellow hammer.
  3. Add eyes and you're done.
Color Name HEX RGB
Red #CC0000 204, 0, 0
Yellow #FFDD00 255, 221, 0


Relationships

Friends

  • Marxism–Leninism - Me, but with a new name, backstory, lore, etc.
  • Socialism - My father, from whom I got all my views. We're very similar. He needs more state, though.
  • Blanquism - Based! You really get me!
  • Posadism - Socialist states in space!? If that's not a paradise, I don't know what is.
  • Fitzhughism - You said "socialism is authoritarianism" in the most redneck way possible.
  • Cybercommunism - Makes my job even easier!

Frenemies

  • Market Socialism - My misguided brother. At least Wolff defined me.
  • Libertarian Socialism - Strong government can strengthen socialism, actually. The state manages factories for the proletariat to work in and central economics are very efficient. No, that's not a bureaucracy I promise.
  • Minarcho-Socialism - Socialism is when the government does stuff! Even they agree!
  • Monarcho-Socialism - Almost great, but what's that about monarchism?
  • State Capitalism - WE ARE NOT THE SAME!! Still love you even when we don't have the same goals.
  • Dengism - Same as above. Mao was still better than you.
  • Fabian Socialism - I love you son, but you scare me.
  • Marxism - Realizes that socialism needs the state in order to be achieved. But why do you wanna get rid of it afterwards? Your son is way cooler anyway.
  • National Bolshevism - I can tolerate you since our views are mostly similar, but if you pull a Nazi on me, I'll make you regret it.
  • Anarcho-Communism - HAHAHA, you want to abolish the transition state that quickly? Good luck when foreign forces and infighting destroy your socialist utopia!! At least we both hate markets.
  • Social Authoritarianism - On one hand, we both like Nasser and Velasco. On the other hand, Thaksin is a filthy authcap, and Alia ended Hoxhaism.

Enemies

  • Capitalism - Free market? The only thing it gives is the freedom to oppress workers.
  • Anarcho-Capitalism - NO.
  • Authoritarian Capitalism - My evil bourgeois twin.
  • State Liberalism - And no, I don't care about pink paint.
  • Bismarckism - Why must you use my name like this?
  • Fascism - Filthy f*shie, go cry in a corner. Although you used to be one of me
  • Ingsoc - We are not the same. And you are not even a Socialist, just an economically apathetic and generically statist casteist.
  • Libertarianism - Why yes, socialism is when the government does stuff, why do you ask?
  • Nazism - You're not a socialist, you're just another 3rd positionist maniac who is explicitly anti-equality.
  • Gorbachevism - You're a disgrace to socialism! You ruined the Soviet Union!

Further Information

Literature

Wikipedia

Video

Citations


Gallery

  • Credit: u/duy_physics, Source

    Credit: u/duy_physics, Source

  • Staswalle's drawing

    Staswalle's drawing

  • Authoritarian Socialism

    Authoritarian Socialism

  • Authoritarian Socialism with new design

    Authoritarian Socialism with new design

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