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|title=[[File:Marketsoc.png]] '''Market Socialism'''
|image=Marketsocialism.png
|caption="Markets of the world, unite!"
|aliases={{
[[File:Marketsoc.png]] MarkSoc<br>
[[File:Lange.png]] Lange–Lerner Model (Erroneously)<br>▼
[[File:SocCap.png]] Socialist Capitalism<br>▼
[[File:Leftcap.png]] Left-Capitalism (Erroneously)<br>▼
[[File:LeftCap.png]] Far-Left Capitalism (Erroneously)<br>▼
{{Alias|BreadTube.png|Liberal Socialism|[[File:Soupcap.gif]] Supercapitalism}}<br>(Erroneously)<br>▼
[[File:Capindecay.png]] Crippled Capitalism (Pejoratively)<br>▼
[[File:Cooperative Capitalism.png]] Coop-capitalism [[File:CoopCap.png]] (By [[File:Statesoc.png]] anti-market socialists)<br>▼
[[File:CronySoc.png]] Crony Socialism (Also by [[File:Statesoc.png]] anti-market socialists)<br>▼
[[File:CapMut.png]] Economic Mutualism<br>
[[File:Neo-Wolffism.png]] Neo-Wolffism<br>
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[[File:StateMarksoc.png]] State Socialism-Market Socialism Synthesis (Some) <br>
[[File:RegulationMarkSoc.png]] Regulated Market Socialism (Many)<br>
Every man a capitalist<br>
▲[[File:Cooperative Capitalism.png]] Coop-capitalism [[File:CoopCap.png]] (By [[File:Statesoc.png]] anti-market socialists [[File:Ancom.png]])<br>
▲[[File:CronySoc.png]] [[Capitalist Communism|Crony Socialism]] (Also by [[File:Statesoc.png]] anti-market socialists [[File:Ancom.png]])<br>
▲[[File:Lange.png]] Lange–Lerner Model (Erroneously)<br>
▲[[File:SocCap.png]] [[Capitalist Communism|Socialist Capitalism]] (Erroneously)<br>
▲{{Alias|BreadTube.png|Liberal Socialism|[[File:Soupcap.gif]] [[Corporatocracy|Supercapitalism]]}}<br>(Erroneously)<br>
▲[[File:Capindecay.png]] Crippled Capitalism (Pejoratively)<br>
}}
|alignments=
{{Info|Left Unity|LeftUnity}}<br>
{{Info|Socialists}}<br>
'''Variants'''{{Collapse|
[[File:Authleft.png|link=:Category:Authoritarian Left]] [[:Category:Authoritarian Left|{{Color|#F9BABA|'''AuthLeft'''}}]] ([[File:Gierek.png]]
}}
|influences=
[[File:Clib.png]] [[Classical Liberalism]]
[[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]]
[[File:Ricardosoc.png]] [[Ricardian Socialism]]
[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism]]
|sub=
[[File:Cooperative Socialism.png]] '''Cooperativism''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:
*[[File:LeftSocdem-Alt.png]] [[Social Democracy|Left-Social Democracy]] (Some)▼
*[[File:RobertOwen.png]] [[Utopian Socialism|Owenism]]
*[[File:SyndieSam.png]] [[Syndicalism|Trade Unionism]]
*[[File:UniWelf.png]] [[Welfarism|Universal Welfarism]]
*[[File:
▲*[[File:Liberalsoc.png]] [[Liberal Socialism]] (Some)
▲*[[File:Bernst.png]] [[Reformist Marxism]] (Some)
▲*[[File:LeftSocdem-Alt.png]] [[Social Democracy|Left-Social Democracy]] (Some)
▲*[[File:Cdem.png]] [[Christian Democracy]] (Some)
}}
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[[File:Lange.png]] '''Lange–Lerner Theorem''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:
*[[File:Tito.png]] [[Titoism]]
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*[[File:Honecker.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Honeckerism]]
*[[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism]]
*[[File:
}}
|regional =
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*[[File:WPD.png]] [[Socialism|Workplace Democracy]]
*[[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism]] (Accused)
*[[File:TommyDouglas.png]] '''Douglasism'''
**[[File:Thar.png]] [[Anti-Authoritarianism|Anti-War Measures Act]]
**[[File:Prog-u.png]] [[Progressivism]]
**[[File:Welf.png]] [[Welfarism]]
}}
[[File:Gierek.png]] '''Gierekism''' {{Collapse|
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*[[File:ModNatcom.png]] [[National Communism]]
*[[File:DemML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|People's Democracy]]
*[[File:
*[[File:Statesoc.png]] [[State Socialism]]
*[[File:Technocracy.png]] [[Technocracy]]
*[[File:Tito.png]] [[Titoism]]
}}
[[File:Goulash.png]] '''Goulash Communism/Kádárism''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Agsoc.png]] [[Agrarian Socialism]]
*[[File:Anti-Stalin.png]] {{PCBA|Anti-Stalinism}}
*[[File:Khrusch.png]] [[Khrushchevism]]
*[[File:ModerateML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Marxism-Leninism]]
*[[File:Nagy.png]] [[Democratic Socialism|Nagyism]] (Initially)
*[[File:Progcom.png]] [[Progressivism|Progressive Communism]]{{Refn|
*[[File:
*[[File:SocImp.png]] [[Imperialism|Social Imperialism]]{{Refn|
*[[File:Statesoc.png]] [[State Socialism]]
*[[File:TankieDictature.png]] [[Stratocracy]]
▲*[[File:SocImp.png]] [[Imperialism|Social Imperialism]]{{Refn|Kadar helped Khrushchev overthrow Nagy and invaded Czechslovakia.|group=Note}}
*[[File:Tito.png]] [[Titoism]]
}}
[[File:Kosygin.png]] '''Kosyginism/Kosygin Reform Model''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:AES.png]] [[Conservative Socialism|Developed Socialism]]
*[[File:ModerateML.png]] [[
*[[File:
*[[File:
*[[File:Social Reformism.png]] [[Reformism|Socialist Reformism]]
*[[File:Statecap.png]] [[State Capitalism]] (Accused)
*[[File:Statesoc.png]] [[State Socialism]]
}}
[[File:Krenz.png]] '''Krenzism''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Anti-Corrupt.png]] Anti-Corruption
*[[File:
*[[File:Honecker.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism#Germany|Honeckerism]]
*[[File:Moderate_ML.png]] [[
*[[File:Ostalgie.png]] [[Conservative Socialism|Ostalgie]]
*[[File:RedPutinism.png]] [[Conservative Socialism|Red Putinism]]
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*[[File:CollectiveLeadership.png]] [[Oligarchy|Collective Leadership]]
*[[File:Orthlen.png]] [[Leninism]]
*[[File:Moderate_ML.png]] [[
*[[File:
}}
[[File:SwedenSocDem.png]] '''Meidner Model''' {{Collapse|
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*[[File:AntiAm.png]] Anti-Americanism
*[[File:Antiwest.png]] Anti-West
*[[File:
*[[File:Authprog.png]] {{PCBA|Authoritarian Progressivism}}
*[[File:Leftnat.png]] [[Left-Wing Nationalism]]
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*[[File:SocauthML.png]] [[Social Authoritarianism]]
*[[File:Russophilia.png]] Russophilia
}}
[[File:MunicSoc.png]] '''Municipal Socialism''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Region.png]] [[Localism|Regionalism]]
}}
[[File:RaulCastro.png]] '''Raúl Castro Thought''' {{Collapse|
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[[File:Jaruzelski-2.png]] [[National Communism|Jaruzelskism]]<br>
[[File:Liberalsoc.png]] [[Liberal Socialism]]<br>
[[File:Libms.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism|Libertarian Market Socialism]]<br>
[[File:
[[File:Tito.png]] [[Titoism]]<br>
}}
|examples =
[[File:Cball-Yugoslavia.png]] [[Titoism|Yugoslavia]] (1945-1992)<br>
[[File:Cball-EastGermany.png]] [[
[[File:Castro.png]] [[National Communism|Cuba]]<br>
[[File:Cball-Vietnam.png]] [[Ho Chi Minh Thought|Vietnam]]<br>
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|theorists =
[[File:Cball-AfricanUnion.png]] '''Africa''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Nyerere.png]] [[African Socialism|Julius Nyerere]] (1922-1990) [[File:Cball-Tanzania.png]] {{PBW|Tanzaniaball|Tanzania}}
}}
[[File:PanAmer.png]] '''Americas''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:
*[[File:
*[[File:
*[[File:
*[[File:
*[[File:DiazCanel.png]] [[Progressivism|Miguel]] [[National Communism|Diaz-]][[Marxism–Leninism|Canel]] (1960-) [[File:Castro.png]] {{PBW|Cubaball|Cuba}}
*[[File:TJ-Whiteheadpfp.png]] [[Socialism of the 21st Century|TJ Whitehead]] (1978-)
*[[File:Vaush.png]] [[Liberal Socialism|Ian "Vaush" Kochinski]] (1994-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] {{PBW|USAball|USA}}
}}
[[File:Cball-Commonwealth.png]] '''Commonwealth Realm''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:WilliamThompson.png]] [[Ricardian Socialism|William Thompson]] (1775-1833) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] {{PBW|UKball|UK}}
*[[File:RobertOwen.png]] [[Utopian Socialism|Robert Owen]] (1771-1858) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] {{PBW|UKball|UK}}
*[[File:Mill.png]] [[Civil Libertarianism|John Stuart Mill]] (1806-1873) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] {{PBW|UKball|UK}}
*[[File:Burn.png]] [[Social Democracy|Andy Burnham]] (1970-) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] {{PBW|UKball|UK}}
}}
[[File:Cball-EU.png]] '''Europe''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Proudhon.png]] [[Mutualism|Pierre-Jospeh Proudhon]] (1809-1865) [[File:Cball-France.png]] {{PBW|Franceball|France}}
*[[File:JosipBrozTito.png]] [[Titoism|Josip Broz Tito]] (1892-1980) [[File:Cball-Yugoslavia.png]] Yugoslavia
*[[File:Kosygin.png]] [[
*[[File:Djilas.png]] [[Liberal Socialism|Milovan Djilas]] (1911-1995) [[File:Cball-Yugoslavia.png]] Yugoslavia
*[[File:Goulash.png]] [[
*[[File:ErichHonecker.png]] [[
*[[File:Gierek.png]] [[
*[[File:SwedenSocDem.png]] [[Democratic Socialism|Rudolf Meidner]] (1914-2005) [[File:Cball-Sweden.png]] {{PBW|Swedenball|Sweden}}
*[[File:Ligachev.png]] [[
*[[File:Jaruzelski-2.png]] [[National Communism|Wojciech Jaruzelski]] (1923-2014) [[File:Cball-Poland.png]] {{PBW|Polandball|Poland}}
*[[File:
*[[File:
*[[File:
*[[File:
*[[File:Libsoc.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism|Yanis Varoufakis]] (1961-) [[File:Cball-Greece.png]] {{PBW|Greeceball|Greece}}
*[[File:Bukh.png]] [[Leninism|Nikolai Bukharin]] (1888-1938) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
*[[File:NEP.png]] [[Leninism|Alexei Rykov]] (1881-1938) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
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|likes = [[File:Markets.png]] Markets<br>
[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism]]<br>
[[File:Cooperative Socialism.png]] Co-operation<br>
[[File:Mill.png]] John Stuart Mill
|dislikes = When someone says socialism can't have markets<br>
People mistaking them for [[File:Socdem.png]] [[Social Democracy]] or [[File:Statecap.png]] [[State Capitalism]]<br>
<s>TNO fan base</s>
|song = [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOvs9p_Ly9M The Battle Hymn of Cooperation] <br> [https://youtu.be/vhL2UJtkxmI Hej Slaveni]
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==Conceptions==
===Employee Funds===
The wage-earner fund was a [[File:Cball-Sweden.png]] Swedish proposal by [[File:SwedenSocDem.png]] [[Democratic Socialism|Rudolf Meidner]] to transition from a [[File:Socdem.png]] [[Social Democracy|social democratic]] economy to a [[File:Marketsoc.png]] market socialist one.
===[[File:Cooperative Socialism.png]] Illyrian model===
Prominent economists in [[File:Cball-Yugoslavia.png]] Yugoslavia, such as Jaroslav Vaněk and Branko Horvat, advocated for this type of Market Socialism. Workers would be the owners
===[[File:Tito.png]] [[Titoism|Titoism/Self-governing socialism]]===
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===[[File:Lange.png]] Lange–Lerner theorem===
There would be a market for final goods, while the state uses a central planning board to allocate the means of production. The government will set prices for capital goods by trial and error until they reach the equilibrium between supply and demand. The workers would still democratically manage the state-owned enterprises, and there would be social dividends thanks to the socially
===[[File:MunicSoc.png]] Municipal Socialism===
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===Stock Socialism===
A variant of socialism in which social ownership of the means of production and workplace democracy is achieved via worker ownership of stocks. One proponent of a similar system was Pranab Bardhan who conceptualised a form of socialism in which workers had equal share of stocks. There is another variant of this
==Personality
MarkSoc is quite disdainful of other, more radical socialists, as well as [[File:Cap.png]] [[Capitalism|capitalists]]. They look down on other [[File:Leftunity.png]] [[:Category:Left Unity|leftist]] ideologies for preventing the beneficial aspects of markets from proliferating in a [[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism|socialist]] system, as well as looking down on [[File:Rightunity-yellow.png]] [[:Category:Right Unity|rightist]] ones for the perceived corruption and suffering in their systems.
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==Relationships==
===Friends===
*[[File:Demsocstar.png]] [[Democratic Socialism]] - They're fellow socialists and supporters of cooperatives.
*[[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]] - My more wacky influence.
*[[File:Libms.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism|Libertarian Market Socialism]] - My freedom-loving descendent.
*[[File:Synd.png]] [[Syndicalism]] - Workforce unionization and decentralized worker organizations? Based!
*[[File:Distributist.png]] [[Distributism]] - Pretty much on the same page, but they're a little more religious than I am.
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*[[File:Globnat.png]] [[Alter-Globalism]] - The global south shall not be exploited!
*[[File:Dem.png]] [[Democracy]] - Worker cooperatives are great at providing you!
*[[File:Yellsoc.png]] [[Yellow Socialism]] - A bit too [[File:Reactcross.png]] [[Reactionaryism|reactionary]] social-wise, but otherwise he's cool.
*[[File:
*[[File:Kosygin.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism#Alexei Kosygin|Kosyginism]] - If only you fully implemented the reforms.....
===Frenemies===
*[[File:Cap.png]] [[Capitalism]] - Sorry dude, your markets are cool, but your bosses are not. We also both like Adam Smith but for VERY different reasons.
*[[File:Clib.png]] [[Classical Liberalism]] - Same as above, I also enjoy Smith's works, but you're still a capitalist.
*[[File:Liberalsoc.png]] [[Liberal Socialism]] - Although you are my child, I have to ask, why are your economic views built on an endless series of pragmatic compromises with capitalism?
*[[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism]] - I fit the official definition of "Socialism" so don't call me a fake socialist! However, Raul Castro, Tito,
*[[File:Austrobert.png]] [[Austrian School]] - Thanks for the ECP, but your unregulated capitalism is horrific.
*[[File:Soclib.png]] [[Social Liberalism]] - We share a lot of the same ideals, and we both like John Stuart Mill, but doesn't provide practical solutions.
*[[File:Capcom.png]] [[Capitalist Communism]] - We both want free markets in a socialist state, but you come off as rather contradictory and not
*[[File:Dengf.png]] [[Dengism]] -
*[[File:AnSynd.png]] [[Anarcho-Syndicalism]] - I love your brother, but why do you want to get rid of the government?
*[[File:Social corpratism.png]] [[Corporatism#Social Corporatism|Social Corporatism]] - Better than regular [[File:corptism.png]] corporatism, but still too hierarchic.
*[[File:Orthlen.png]] [[Leninism]] - You understand that cooperatives are a good way to transition into socialism, which is based, I also like the [[File:NEP.png]] New Economic Policy, but your rejection of reform is something I wouldn't like, in fact, reform is ideal in achieving socialism.
*[[File:Honecker.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism#Erich Honecker|Honeckerism]] - Still too planned for my tea, but it's good that you took a step to embrace some market socialist ideals.
*[[File:TodorZhivkov.png]][[File:WalterUlbricht.png]] [[
*[[File:Juche.png]] [[Juche]] - I like some of your economic ideas, but the totalitarianism and protectionism is cringe.
*[[File:Statesoc.png]] [[State Socialism]] - We are both socialists, but you should lessen your authoritarian rhetoric. A planned economy is stagnant and your tendency to be overly centralized and overly bureaucratic in dealing with economics tends to hurt the working class more than it helps them. Although we sometimes overlap, mostly in Eastern Europe.
*[[File:Socdem.png]] [[Social Democracy]] - You're far from horrible in modern times, but I kinda miss when you were a lot closer to me rather than a friendlier version of [[File:Cap.png]] him.
*[[File:3way.png]] [[Third Way]] - You're a kinder version of [[File:Cap.png]] them with some of [[File:Socdem.png]] him too, but you still seem more exploitative.▼
*[[File:Socauth.png]] [[Social Authoritarianism]] - You're sometimes too moderate economically even getting close to [[File:Cap.png]] him; but [[File:JuanVelasco.png]] [[Caudillismo|Revolutionary Government of the Armed Forces]]' Yugoslavia-like socialist self-management system was really based.
*[[File:Nordmodel.png]] [[Nordic Model]] - Again, not bad, though I wish you followed through with Rudolf Meidner's ideas.
===Enemies===
*[[File:Fash.png]] [[Fascism]] - A corporatist economy is not even close to what I advocate for, especially with the class collaboration that it requires.
*[[File:Neoliberal-icon.png]] [[Neoliberalism]] - This is what exclusive capitalism leads to.
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*[[File:LeftCom.png]] [[Italian Left Communism]] - Why do you hate me?
*[[File:Libertarian.png]] [[Libertarianism]] - "The freer the market, freer the people", I totally agree, but you misunderstood the quote.
▲*[[File:3way.png]] [[Third Way]] - You're a kinder version of [[File:Cap.png]] them with some of [[File:Socdem.png]] him too, but you still seem more exploitative.
*[[File:Ancapf.png]] [[Anarcho-Capitalism]] - The free market means no capitalism.
*[[File:Corp.png]] [[Corporatocracy]] - You
*[[File:Obj.png]] [[Objectivism]] - Free markets aren't about worshiping your boss or being
*[[File:Avar.png]] [[Avaritionism
==Further Information==
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===Online Communities===
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/Market_Socialism r/Market_Socialism] [[File:Marketsoc.png]]
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/Supercapitalists/ r/Supercapitalists] [[File:Soupcap.gif]]
===Wikipedia===
*[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[w:Market socialism|Market Socialism]]
*[[w:Market economy#Socialism|Market Socialist Economy]]
*[[File:Lfreesoc.png]] [[w:Laissez-faire#Socialism|Laissez-Faire Socialism]]
*[[w:Employee_funds|Employee funds]]
*[[w:Economy of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia|Economy of SFRY]]
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MarkSoc.png
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File:Socialcompass.png|"Socialist Compass" by [[User:Spadist|Spade]]▼
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Left RPG Ideologies-Roxxagon-dykzq38x61h61.png|''"If leftist ideologies were RPG characters"'' by [[File:Liqdem.png]] Roxxagon, [https://www.reddit.com/r/polcompballart/comments/li9636/i_drew_this_a_while_ago_if_leftist_ideologies/ Source]
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DualityofMarkSoc.png|Annoyed MarkSoc
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